Dog found his oldest bottle to date

[Brommas]

Good afternoon everyone,

I'm after a bit of advice in relation to this bottle please, I have a dog that collects old bottles(he actually collects any bottles but brings back lots of old ones) I am not a collector but have learned a fair bit after researching many of his finds. This I believe is probably his oldest find to date(I have about 50 early 1920 upwards bottles at home that he has bought back on walks), this one is an old r. white bottle, I'm thinking it's around 1900 upwards, I say this because it's clearly machine made but the seam only goes to the neck of the bottle(not up through the lid portion where the internal thread is. Also the lid to my eye appears to have been applied or stuck on somehow because it isn't symmetrical or level on parts, this is why I am confused, could anyone suggest a rough date please?. The bottle itself is in very good condition with 1 very small chip on the top edge . He was digging at something on the riverbank and I thought it looked an odd shape for a stone, when I pulled it out it was this lovely old bottle.

 

[Brommas]

Should have said item was found in the united kingdom.

 

[CanadianBottles]

This is not a machine-made bottle, it was mouth-blown with the lip applied by hand. UK bottles can be tough to date precisely by manufacturing style because the glassmakers there were slow to adopt new technologies. It could date anywhere from the 1880s up to around 1930 or so (possibly a bit later even, not sure when they stopped making these by hand exactly). Anytime you see an applied lip like that you can be certain that a bottle was not machine-made. Machine-made bottles will usually (although not exactly 100% of the time) have a seam that goes to the top of the lip, and a rough circular suction scar on the base if it's an earlier one.

 

[Hogtown Hunter]

Your dog sniffs out bottles? That's amazing!
My Labs eat treats and sleep all day.
I should have trained them as pups.

 

[hemihampton]

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[Brommas]

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Hi, thank you for the response, I have a good few bottles that he has found with the vulcanised rubber lids. I was more interested in comments on the top of the bottle and how it attaches as on all of the other bottles he has found(that are 1920 upwards), you can see the seem that runs through the complete bottle on both sides right up until the bottle finishes, this one it comes to just below the ridge (where the lid is) and the whole look of it looks like it has been attached rather than molded (I will try and get a better image at some point today and post it. Is that usual for a bottle?, the bottle itself is a vintage rwhites lemonade , company started in 1845 in London, I'm probably expecting a bit much for any of you to know much about it's age in all honesty. But the amount of knowledge that Ive seen here in the past is amazing.

 

[Brommas]

Your dog sniffs out bottles? That's amazing!
My Labs eat treats and sleep all day.
I should have trained them as pups.

Yes, he's a retriever , in all honesty he should probably have been a gun dog, his sense of smell/hunting abilities are phenomenal. Catches pigeons, digs out mice and catches rabbits. My question about bottles is that I wouldn't have thought a bottle that's been on the surface for nearly 100 years would have much of a scent to it, but there you go. He's never been trained it's something he's done since a pup(he's 2.5 now) he tidied up one of our local beauty spots from all bottles, many of them are older because of the amount of time it's been a beauty spot and people have always littered. That's an image of him at 6 months. He's a big boy 40plus kg and has 3 hours exercise a day(mostly hunting anything he can catch).

 

[Brommas]

This is not a machine-made bottle, it was mouth-blown with the lip applied by hand. UK bottles can be tough to date precisely by manufacturing style because the glassmakers there were slow to adopt new technologies. It could date anywhere from the 1880s up to around 1930 or so (possibly a bit later even, not sure when they stopped making these by hand exactly). Anytime you see an applied lip like that you can be certain that a bottle was not machine-made. Machine-made bottles will usually (although not exactly 100% of the time) have a seam that goes to the top of the lip, and a rough circular suction scar on the base if it's an earlier one.

Sorry,i missed your reply somehow, thank you for the information, I know the company started in 1845 in London, I will see if I can match it to other bottles from the same company when I have a bit of time. But thank you so much.