Ste Pierre Smirnoff Fls

[bottlebugs]

you are on the right track...look at part 3 for the later codes etc...

The pontil (suction) scar places it after 1934 but before about 1950...the 75
is the liquor permit code...and...it is before 1964..so my best guess is around 1945
to split the difference...too bad the date code to the left is obscured.

"The requirements called for a specific code
sequence on bases, with the distiller number (beginning
with D), rectifier number (beginning with R), or import
number (beginning with I) on top, followed by a second
line with the glass house (federal) number to the left,
followed by either a dash or the manufacturer’s logo
(Figure 20). If a dash were used, the logo had to appear
elsewhere on the base. The number to the left was a date
code, and two-digit numbers were required during 1940 (in a different ordinance). The configuration for flask bases or bottle heels were very similar. In addition, the shoulder of the bottles had to be embossed “FEDERAL LAW FORBIDS SALE OR RE-USE OF THIS BOTTLE.” The requirements were not rescinded until 1964."

 

[bottlebugs]

I think I got this backwards...1975? seems late for a pontil scar..


"The requirements called for a specific code
sequence on bases, with the distiller number (beginning
with D), rectifier number (beginning with R), or import
number (beginning with I) on top, followed by a second
line with the glass house (federal) number to the left,
followed by either a dash or the manufacturer’s logo
(Figure 20). If a dash were used, the logo had to appear
elsewhere on the base. The number to the left was a date
code, and two-digit numbers were required during 1940 (in a different ordinance). The configuration for flask bases or bottle heels were very similar. In addition, the shoulder of the bottles had to be embossed “FEDERAL LAW FORBIDS SALE OR RE-USE OF THIS BOTTLE.” The requirements were not rescinded until 1964.
Typically, each glass manufacturer was assigned a single number, although a few amassed extra numbers as they purchased or absorbed smaller factories. Because of its vast size and numerous plants Owens-Illinois received a large quantity of numbers. According to an Owens-Illinois 1969 internal list of liquor permit numbers, the firm received numbers 54-55, 57-
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[Step Back In Time]

Wow that's great information!

 

[Goodwillshopper]

 

[Goodwillshopper]

I go back and forth if it’s a 54 or a 64. The number to the left of Owen’s mark.

 

[Step Back In Time]

Well at least that narrows it down.

 

[bottlebugs]

nice window to shop with!

 

[bottlebugs]

1954 was a good year!

 

[Goodwillshopper]

I got good confirmation that the 64 on the bottle means it came from the Alton, IL factory. The 75 is 1975. Even tho it has the Federal law forbids - it was sometimes left on after 1965. The exact bottle, except made in 1974 not 1975, sold on Worthpoint. I don’t have a membership to give me the sold price. Darn.

Thanks everyone for the help! 1975 was a good year for me.

 

[bottlebugs]

its been fun!